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|agonizer||Posted :: 4:49am, Thu, Dec 9, 2004 Subject :: Recognize netsplits / add a splitlist|
|To prevent ugly (mass) deops after a netsplit->rejoin, let the bot remember|
who had op before. This list needs to time out after a time (1800 seconds =
30 minutes). If those users rejoin and get server-op'd just do not deop them
if SD is set. Let the bot remember the time of the last split for information
<X-Damage> Last netstplit detected 03:06:27 Dec 09 2004 (0 days 02:41:06 ago)
<X-Damage> The splitlist for channel #agotest is empty
(Otherwise users who're gone in a netsplit would be listed)
|proton||Posted :: 5:50am, Thu, Dec 9, 2004|
|On undernet its impossible to reliably detect netsplits.|
Any system can be fooled.
|agonizer||Posted :: 6:36am, Thu, Dec 9, 2004|
|Dont know for undernet, but new upcoming ircd-2.11 (IRCnet) puts the quit message|
in "" (quotes) when its user generated. If quotes are missing, its a server-
generated message. Also i wasn't able to generate a faked split-quit message with
other ircd. If i try, then the server adds an space to the msg and it's not
recognized as a netsplit.
Why should an user fake a quit message and abuse the bot this way? If the (ab)user
has already op, then he doesn't need to fake a quit... If a user doesn't have
op, then he wont get added to the splitlist on any type of quit (only opped and
unknown users get into the split list).
|proton||Posted :: 8:11am, Thu, Dec 9, 2004|
|There is a lot of "sane" stuff a bot could do when it assumes a netsplit|
is going on, like stopping +l updating, not server-deopping, yadda yadda
Things that would be easy for a non-user to abuse.
|agonizer||Posted :: 9:12am, Thu, Dec 9, 2004|
Well, i can't imagine how those 'sane' stuff could work with the current mech.
The solution for the +l problem is simple: If the server issues a '+l xxx'
on a netjoin, the bot issues a -l and later on a correct +l. The non server-
deopping cannot be abused because the abuser need to have already op before the
split occures (so the bot see him opped (in the aChanUser record) AND netsplit-
quit). Dont know if there are other possible problems.
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